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    #449279   2008-05-20 12:37 GMT      
    I have made the decision to go barefoot with my reining mare. She is only 4 and has been shod for the past two years. I am looking for a shoe alternative to help her transition. I have purchased boots to help while I am ridding her but I am worried about her being turned out. I do know that I will loose some length on her slide and that is okay with me. Any and all sugestions would be great thank you!
    I have made the decision to go barefoot, it has nothing to do with cost, it has everything to do with the well being of my horse. I ride at least 6 days a week and often wear through shoes in 6 weeks. I have consulted with my vet and farrier and both agree with me, that barefoot will help maintain her health in the long run. They both also warned of the recovery time and that is what I am trying to help her with. Thank you to all of you who have kept an open mind when answering my question. Have any of you who go barefoot tried Hoof Armor?

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    #449280   2008-05-20 12:43 GMT      
    I would reccomend staying with shoes. they offer support and protection, especially with a reigner. If anything put her on a good hoof supplement and pull the shoes. you must allow alot of time for hr to get acclamated before you even think about riding her.consult your farrier and vet.

    good luck!

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    #449281   2008-05-20 12:50 GMT      
    You may wish to ck out the steel aluminum styles,

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    #449282   2008-05-20 12:52 GMT      
    I took off my 10-year-old mare's shoes for 2 years. She was basicly fine with it. You just have to be carful, don't go on sharp rocks, and go slow on hard surfaces.You can sloly toughen up her feet - after all, the horses in the wild didn't wear shoes! Hope I helped!

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    #449283   2008-05-20 12:53 GMT      
    It depends on how much you are riding your mare. If you are riding quite a bit I would recommend staying with shoes for the protection of your horses feet and preventing stone bruises. If you are not riding very much then going shoeless is fine. I would not worry about the transition from going with shoes to without. Horses are born bare footed I think you will be OK. One of our horses goes barefooted in the winter all the time and has never had problems. Luck to you

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    #449284   2008-05-20 13:08 GMT      
    Good for you, your mare will thank you in the long run (no pun intended). I don't think you'll need an alternative except the boots. Unless she's in a rocky paddock she'll be fine turned out. As always have your farrier help you with her transition. But you will both be happy in the end!
    I think the Length of you slide should be the least of your worries (which it looks like it is) and your mare's foot and overall health should come first (which I think it has!).
    Best of luck!

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    #449285   2008-05-20 13:13 GMT      
    She can wear Easyboots or Old Mac boots while turned out for foot protection. Alternately, there are glue on shoes available from the horseshoer that might help. With some time, and a good transition period, her feet should toughen up and the nail holes will grow out making her feet stronger. Just be sure to keep her well trimmed every six weeks or so.

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    #449286   2008-05-20 13:49 GMT      
    Good for you and for your horse. I presume her feet were tender after pulling the shoes? If so, boots are a good way to go. I love the Easyboot Epic with the gator - they must be a proper fit and you should get your farrier to "roll the toe" just like the toe wall would be, but they are really great. I bought some Old Macs - sorry they are a waste of money. They do have a gator now and have developed pads for fitting but these things were not available when I bought mine. If these are fitted properly, she will have no problem and you should be able to ride her on any terrain while her feet are recovering from the shoes. It could take quite a while for her to recover and that depends on a lot of factors. What type of terrain is she in? Is she turned out or does she have a lot of stall time? Do you ride her on gravel or packed roads or softer surfaces? All of these things will make a big difference in her recovery from the trauma of having shoes for two years. I suggest you get a good "barefoot" trim for her. A hoof trim for a shoe is very different from the barefoot trim. Have her sole evaluated to see how thick her sole is. Unfortunately, shod horses have thin and sensitive soles due to lack of stimulation and the unnatural forces of the shoe. Given time, the hoof wall will grow and recover from the nails. With proper trimming, your horse can develop rock crushing hooves with a calloused sole and frog that will be able to travel anywhere. However, you have to be patient and be willing to take the necessary time for her to get where she needs to be. My eventer has been barefoot (1300 pounds/WB) for 7 years (pulled his shoes when I brought him home) and he does everything without any problems. With the reining, I would definitely use boots to protect her legs, especially with the sliding stops, but otherwise she should be great. Being without shoes will allow her foot to flex in all proper directions, improve the circulation in her feet and legs, improve the neurological response in her feet and legs - it will all be good. When she can go without her boots, the more you ride her, the better her feet will be. Stimulation from travel instigates good healthy growth and the formation of protective tissues on the foot. Again, get a proper barefoot trim and watch your horse. She should have a "heel-first" landing. Look for balance in her gait and you should be able to feel it when you ride also. I think you made the best decision for your horse. Seek professionals who will support you in your goals. I wish you the best of luck.

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    #449287   2008-05-20 13:58 GMT      
    I'm with BarefootTrimmer on this one.

    I have both Boa's and Old Macs. I hate the Old Macs.
    The Epic Easyboot is one that I want to try also. I've heard nothing but good about them and alot of trainers use them to make the barefoot transition.

    I have a link so that you can see all of the choices (I think all of them)
    http://www.naturalhorsetrim.com/boot_swap.htm

    I know that alot of horses that have been in shoes all of their lives then all of the sudden they are taken away and left bare are sore. They will limp around for a month or two...sometimes three! Grass, sand, shavings....it hurt.
    Venice Turpentine (or hoof oils with this in it) will help toughen up the soles.

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    #449288   2008-05-20 14:00 GMT      
    I recommend you keep your shoes on her if you plan on riding her more than 2 days a week. The hoof wall and hoof sole will bend and crack and cause a lot of damage to your horse's overall health. Remember, the reason people get shoes is to PROTECT the hoof. But if your planning on just joy-riding her 2 days a week (max) then she'd be happiest. Rule of thumb - Growth should equal wear. Heart-rate equals growth.

    Also, I'm completely against what Barefoottrimmer said. The only reason to go barefoot is because you don't plan on riding as much or because of medical reasons. "Unfortunately, shod horses have thin and sensitive soles due to lack of stimulation and the unnatural forces of the shoe." That is untrue. A bad farrier will trim a horse too short - thus "tender" feet. Realistically, horses with shoes have the same amount of sole as a barefooted horse - if not more due to they move and get worked more often, and harder than a barefooted horse.

    "Given time, the hoof wall will grow and recover from the nails. With proper trimming, your horse can develop rock crushing hooves with a calloused sole and frog that will be able to travel anywhere." That's also not true. ALL horses hooves are made of the SAME exact material. Show me a picture of a calloused sole, please. It's probably just a sole that's been trimmed maybe 1/16th of an inch longer than another horse.

    "Being without shoes will allow her foot to flex in all proper directions, improve the circulation in her feet and legs, improve the neurological response in her feet and legs - it will all be good." The tubules will bend, yes. EVERY horse's hooves bend - shod horses or barefoot horses. Barefoot horses however, have a higher chance of getting quarter cracks, rock bruises, tender soles, etc. Because there isn't enough protection on the bottom of their foot for the hoof to grow.

    "Stimulation from travel instigates good healthy growth and the formation of protective tissues on the foot. Again, get a proper barefoot trim and watch your horse. She should have a "heel-first" landing. Look for balance in her gait and you should be able to feel it when you ride also." The first couple words are correct - heart rate equals growth. The more she moves, the faster her hooves are going to grow. However.. protective tissues? Horses hooves are NOT made out of tissues. If there's tissue on the outside or inside of your horse's hoof, then there is something seriously wrong and I recommend getting it checked out immediately. "Proper barefoot trim" lands "heels-first"? That's wrong.. that causes excessive wear on the heels and would make the toes flare out. Horses legs should fly straight and land _flat_. No exceptions - barefoot or otherwise. What is balance? Can you define balance, show me a picture of it? Balance according to the AFA (American Farrier Association) is the horse stands in the middle of his foot and bears weight evenly.

    Talk to your farrier what'll be best for your horse and what your needs are.

    (Sorry for the wall of text..)

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    #449289   2008-05-20 14:42 GMT      
    Barfoot Rocks !!!!! Our 3 horses have been barefoot for the last 3 years. I can tell you how happy we have been and the horses too. I understand your worries I had them too, but after see the amazing difference in the horse and the cool info about barefoot trimming I will never have shoes on any of my horses.
    We only trail ride with our horses granted it is on different surfaces all the time. We have riden barefoot on gravel, down ditch banks, in brush, over logs and on hard pack clay. In the beging we bought boots just in case. We bought the boots that are called "bare by easy boot". They are great and very easy to get on and stay on very well. We used them once just because we were new at the whole bare foot thing. Our horses have never taken a lame step since we have been barefoot even on the trail. I'm a true believer in barfoot and a very happy horse owner because of barefoot. In our area farriers seem to "cowboy" the horse that they trim. Nothing against cowboys I come from a family of them its how the farriers put it. Which to me it seem they were a little ruff on the horses. I'm not under the horse so I can not say a word because if I had 1200 lbs leaning on me I might want to be a little ruff with them too.
    To wrap this long answer up, I knew I had a good feeling about barefoot when on the cover of an issue of horse and rider was Jonh Lyons riding a beautiful horse down the trail barefoot. The issue had a artical in it about to go bare or not. I guess he has had his horse barefoot for a while now. Check out this website it is so helpful with barefoot trimming. The man Pete Ramey is amazing. He sells a book that is wonderful and also so helpful. So helpful that with the help and guidence of the lady who started the barefoot trimming on our horse and constant referance to Pete's book my husband has learn to trim our horese.
    To anwser your question about her transition. Get a good natrual hoof groomer as they like to be called and ride barfoot as much as possible. The more you ride bare the tuffer her soles will be. Putting the boots on will slow the process. They maybe needed if on sharp rock we did not find this to be true but our horse had not had shoes on for about a year.
    I hope this helps and will settle some of your conserens with going bare!!!!!

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    I have never tried "hoof armor" but it sounds like putting a clear coat of nail polish on your nails. I agree totaly with barefoot you must have a good correct barefoot trim to get the advantages of going bare. I think I would get a good barefoot trim and see how your mare does before you buy the "hoof armor" Here is the boots I like so much they have the gator also. http://www.easycareinc.com/Our_Boots/easyboot_bare/easyboot_bare.aspx

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    #449290   2008-05-20 15:36 GMT      
    Going barefoot whenever possible is IMO the way to go. For the transitional period I would look into the easy boot, or something similar. You will be surprised at just how quickly a horses hooves will adapt & harden up. Recent research shows that a gread deal of support in the hoof depends upon the sole, and not just the hoof wall as previously thought. You will have fewer problems in the long run if your horse is barefoot. many mounted partols go bare now too, and they are on pavement all day! Good luck!

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    #449291   2008-05-20 16:29 GMT      
    I own 28 horses & all of them are barefoot!! I ride in the mountains or WY & NV(I live in both places). My horses have very strong hooves, I have never had a problem with them being tender footed. My mother has always had her horses bare. & I am a firm believer in the barefoot! I have had nothing but great things to say about it.
    Here are a few sites to read, a lot of good info!! Hope this helps!!


    http://www.thehorseshoof.com/


    http://www.marthaolivo.com/articles/article21.shtml


    http://www.barefoottrim.com/

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    #449292   2008-05-20 18:14 GMT      
    Mine are barefoot, but the boot works fine for me when they need more protection. I take the boots off when they don't need them anymore. My horses are all pastured, and I don't work them hard. I wouldn't use shoes unless absolutely necessary.
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